looking for SQL Server 7.0 Log Shipping on BORK 4.5, BO 4.5, MSDN Universal

looking for SQL Server 7.0 Log Shipping on BORK 4.5, BO 4.5, MSDN Universal

Post by Ron Talmag » Thu, 15 Jul 1999 04:00:00



Yuri,

It's on the CD that comes with the MS Press BORK 4.5. Check the MSDN
Downloads area; I don't know if it's up there yet.

Ron
Ron Talmage
SQL Server MVP, MCSD, MCP


Quote:>Hi

>has anyone found the SQL7.0 log shipping kit/documentation on MSDN
Universal
>BORK/BO 4.5? We have just received our copy of MSDN Universal June 1999
>update and I could not find it anyplace. Is log shipping available on
>SQL7.0? Is it on MS-Web anyplace?

>thanks for any pointers
>--
>Yuri Budilov (always expressing personal opinions only)
>Melbourne, Australia

 
 
 

looking for SQL Server 7.0 Log Shipping on BORK 4.5, BO 4.5, MSDN Universal

Post by Yuri Budilo » Fri, 16 Jul 1999 04:00:00


Hi

has anyone found the SQL7.0 log shipping kit/documentation on MSDN Universal
BORK/BO 4.5? We have just received our copy of MSDN Universal June 1999
update and I could not find it anyplace. Is log shipping available on
SQL7.0? Is it on MS-Web anyplace?

thanks for any pointers
--
Yuri Budilov (always expressing personal opinions only)
Melbourne, Australia

 
 
 

looking for SQL Server 7.0 Log Shipping on BORK 4.5, BO 4.5, MSDN Universal

Post by Yuri Budilo » Fri, 16 Jul 1999 04:00:00


Thanks for a very quick reply, Ron

I went to MSDN Member downloads area
(http://msdn.microsoft.com/subscriptions/resources/subdwnld.asp) and
unfortunately we, Australians, are at the bottom of the pile - only North
America and Europe are supported at the moment.....Well, at least we get
compensated in many other areas! 8^)

It would be a pity if I have to fork out for MS-Press BORK 4.5 kit, since I
would expect MSDN Universal kit to cover it.....sigh. 8^(

Thanks again.
--
Yuri Budilov (always expressing personal opinions only)
Melbourne, Australia

| Yuri,
|
| It's on the CD that comes with the MS Press BORK 4.5. Check the MSDN
| Downloads area; I don't know if it's up there yet.
|
| Ron
| Ron Talmage
| SQL Server MVP, MCSD, MCP
|

| >Hi
| >
| >has anyone found the SQL7.0 log shipping kit/documentation on MSDN
| Universal
| >BORK/BO 4.5? We have just received our copy of MSDN Universal June 1999
| >update and I could not find it anyplace. Is log shipping available on
| >SQL7.0? Is it on MS-Web anyplace?
| >
| >thanks for any pointers
| >--
| >Yuri Budilov (always expressing personal opinions only)
| >Melbourne, Australia
| >
| >
|
|

 
 
 

looking for SQL Server 7.0 Log Shipping on BORK 4.5, BO 4.5, MSDN Universal

Post by Yuri Budilo » Sat, 17 Jul 1999 04:00:00


Nevermind.

I managed to acquire it by other means and I even got it to work now.

I am posting this to save some other poor soul some time.....

The unfortunate restriction appears to be that: *no* (read-only) users are
allowed to be connected to the "warm/hot/standby" database for the
rollfoward process to work.

Having read BOL:

"In standby mode, the database is available for read-only operations, such
as database queries that do not attempt to modify the database. This allows
the database to be used for decision-support queries or DBCC checks, for
example."

I was hoping that the "restore log..... with standby =" will allow (idle,
read only) users remain connected to the database. Unfortunately the error
message is loud and clear :

"Server: Msg 3101, Level 16, State 1, Line 1
Database in use. The system administrator must have exclusive use of the
database to run the restore operation.
Server: Msg 3013, Level 16, State 1, Line 1
Backup or restore operation terminating abnormally.?

Oh well, there is always next release 8^)

So, if the database is say, minutes behind the master copy then it is
*effectively* un-available for any read-only work.
Alternatively, if the database is, say,  hours behind the master then it can
be used for read-only work during non-roll-forward periods, with appropriate
scheduling.

It still remains a very useful utility IMHO, but not as useful as I first
hoped.

Have I missed anything? Is anyone using SQL 7.0 log shipping utility in
production yet? Any comments?

thanks in advance
--
Yuri Budilov (always expressing personal opinions only)
Melbourne, Australia

| Thanks for a very quick reply, Ron
|
| I went to MSDN Member downloads area
| (http://msdn.microsoft.com/subscriptions/resources/subdwnld.asp) and
| unfortunately we, Australians, are at the bottom of the pile - only North
| America and Europe are supported at the moment.....Well, at least we get
| compensated in many other areas! 8^)
|
| It would be a pity if I have to fork out for MS-Press BORK 4.5 kit, since
I
| would expect MSDN Universal kit to cover it.....sigh. 8^(
|
| Thanks again.
| --
| Yuri Budilov (always expressing personal opinions only)
| Melbourne, Australia


| | Yuri,
| |
| | It's on the CD that comes with the MS Press BORK 4.5. Check the MSDN
| | Downloads area; I don't know if it's up there yet.
| |
| | Ron
| | Ron Talmage
| | SQL Server MVP, MCSD, MCP
| |


| | >Hi
| | >
| | >has anyone found the SQL7.0 log shipping kit/documentation on MSDN
| | Universal
| | >BORK/BO 4.5? We have just received our copy of MSDN Universal June 1999
| | >update and I could not find it anyplace. Is log shipping available on
| | >SQL7.0? Is it on MS-Web anyplace?
| | >
| | >thanks for any pointers
| | >--
| | >Yuri Budilov (always expressing personal opinions only)
| | >Melbourne, Australia
| | >
| | >
| |
| |
|
|

 
 
 

looking for SQL Server 7.0 Log Shipping on BORK 4.5, BO 4.5, MSDN Universal

Post by Neil Pik » Sun, 18 Jul 1999 04:00:00


Yuri - yes, it is rather a restriction, but I also suspect there is nothing
much MS can/will do about it in the short term.  The log shipping util is just
a wrapper around standard backup/restore commands anyway.

But I'll pass to MS and see what they say..

 Neil Pike MVP/MCSE.  Protech Computing Ltd
 (Please post ALL replies to the newsgroup only unless indicated otherwise)
 For SQL FAQ entries see
 http://go.compuserve.com/sqlserver (library 1) - latest stuff is always here
 www.ntfaq.com/sql.html
 http://www.swynk.com/faq/sql/sqlserverfaq.asp

 
 
 

looking for SQL Server 7.0 Log Shipping on BORK 4.5, BO 4.5, MSDN Universal

Post by Yuri Budilo » Tue, 20 Jul 1999 04:00:00


Thanks Neil!

I wont be surprised to see it in a near future release then. 8^)

--
Yuri Budilov (always expressing personal opinions only)
Melbourne, Australia

| Yuri - yes, it is rather a restriction, but I also suspect there is
nothing
| much MS can/will do about it in the short term.  The log shipping util is
just
| a wrapper around standard backup/restore commands anyway.
|
| But I'll pass to MS and see what they say..
|
|  Neil Pike MVP/MCSE.  Protech Computing Ltd
|  (Please post ALL replies to the newsgroup only unless indicated
otherwise)
|  For SQL FAQ entries see
|  http://go.compuserve.com/sqlserver (library 1) - latest stuff is always
here
|  www.ntfaq.com/sql.html
|  http://www.swynk.com/faq/sql/sqlserverfaq.asp
|
|

 
 
 

looking for SQL Server 7.0 Log Shipping on BORK 4.5, BO 4.5, MSDN Universal

Post by Neil Pik » Tue, 20 Jul 1999 04:00:00


Yuri - haven't heard anything yet, and unless it's already on the feature list
(which I doubt) it won't make the next SQL release.

 Neil Pike MVP/MCSE.  Protech Computing Ltd
 (Please post ALL replies to the newsgroup only unless indicated otherwise)
 For SQL FAQ entries see
 http://go.compuserve.com/sqlserver (library 1) - latest stuff is always here
 www.ntfaq.com/sql.html
 http://www.swynk.com/faq/sql/sqlserverfaq.asp

 
 
 

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