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by **Wilbur Stree** » Tue, 24 Dec 1996 04:00:00

I'm building up my platform and I'm thinking that I'd like to have a 3D
card that will support both Direct3D and OpenGL at the same time. I'd like
to not have to spend a fortune on it.

The idea is that I'd like to be able to do OpenGL and Direct3D work on my
NT/40 machine, (I can survive with Windows 95 for a while if necessary).

Anyone know of any cards like like this? How about what I can expect to
pay for them? URL's?

Wilbur

by **Remy Savill** » Tue, 24 Dec 1996 04:00:00

> I'm building up my platform and I'm thinking that I'd like to have a 3D
> card that will support both Direct3D and OpenGL at the same time. I'd like
> to not have to spend a fortune on it.

3Dfx is working on it, although I don't know if there will be opengl
drivers for their voodoo chipset, or just the voodoo rush chipset. You
would probably find it best to wait until there is a card on the market
that uses the voodoo rush chipset. Take a look at the 3Dfx page for
more info.

I think the matrox millenium supports both too, but its 3D isn't quite
good enough for games :)

by **Wilbur Stree** » Wed, 25 Dec 1996 04:00:00

I'm building up my platform and I'm thinking that I'd like to have a 3D
card that will support both Direct3D and OpenGL at the same time. I'd like
to not have to spend a fortune on it.

The idea is that I'd like to be able to do OpenGL and Direct3D work on my
NT/40 machine, (I can survive with Windows 95 for a while if necessary).

Anyone know of any cards like like this? How about what I can expect to
pay for them? URL's?

Wilbur

by **Mark Feldma** » Wed, 25 Dec 1996 04:00:00

Arrggggghhhhhh! HE'S BACK!!! :)

Quote:> I'm building up my platform and I'm thinking that I'd like to have a 3D
> card that will support both Direct3D and OpenGL at the same time. I'd like
> to not have to spend a fortune on it.

> The idea is that I'd like to be able to do OpenGL and Direct3D work on my
> NT/40 machine, (I can survive with Windows 95 for a while if necessary).

> Anyone know of any cards like like this? How about what I can expect to
> pay for them? URL's?

I'm by no means an expert in this field, all I can say is stay well away
from anything #9 puts out. I was given an Imagine 128 Series 2 earlier
on this year (about $600 worth I believe) only to find out that their
drivers don't even take advantage of any of it's hardware acceleration
features. When I finally got through to tech support I was told that
they weren't planning on updating the drivers for it but that they'd
give me a 20% discount off their latest board. Nice. Real nice!

From what everyone's been saying I think Matrox is the way to go. The
URL, predictably, is http://www.matrox.com

Cheers,

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by **Chad C. Yate** » Wed, 25 Dec 1996 04:00:00

> Arrggggghhhhhh! HE'S BACK!!! :)

> > I'm building up my platform and I'm thinking that I'd like to have a 3D
> > card that will support both Direct3D and OpenGL at the same time. I'd like
> > to not have to spend a fortune on it.

> > The idea is that I'd like to be able to do OpenGL and Direct3D work on my
> > NT/40 machine, (I can survive with Windows 95 for a while if necessary).

> > Anyone know of any cards like like this? How about what I can expect to
> > pay for them? URL's?

> I'm by no means an expert in this field, all I can say is stay well away
> from anything #9 puts out. I was given an Imagine 128 Series 2 earlier
> on this year (about $600 worth I believe) only to find out that their
> drivers don't even take advantage of any of it's hardware acceleration
> features. When I finally got through to tech support I was told that
> they weren't planning on updating the drivers for it but that they'd
> give me a 20% discount off their latest board. Nice. Real nice!

> From what everyone's been saying I think Matrox is the way to go. The
> URL, predictably, is http://www.matrox.com

I feel that I should say something here. I have an Imagine 128-2. The
3D hardware will only be enabled in 640x480x16million or
800x600x65thousand modes. If you want to do hardware accelerated 3d at
anything higher your going to need the 8mb version of the card which
will let you do 1182xwhatever at 65thousand colors. my only complaint
is that they lead me to believe that I could upgrade the board to the
8mb version through a board swap. little did I realize that there idea
of a board swap "upgrade" was to only give you a discount of a mere 20%
on the new card. lets see... $600 for the original. Trade it in and
pay 80% of $600 =$480. So now my new 8mb board would cost me
$600+$480=$1080. I don't think so. I'll sell my board to someone else,
or sit on it for awhile before I'll give it away for $120.

by **Mark Feldma** » Wed, 25 Dec 1996 04:00:00

> I feel that I should say something here. I have an Imagine 128-2. The
> 3D hardware will only be enabled in 640x480x16million or
> 800x600x65thousand modes.

Can you provide a bit more info on how to enable this? I've tried
running it in all modes (including these) but the D3D test program
always says that hardware acceleration is not present. What driver
version are you using? If I could get hardware acceleration in
800x600x65K I would be a happy man.

Cheers,

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by **Glenn Corp** » Wed, 25 Dec 1996 04:00:00

> > I'm building up my platform and I'm thinking that I'd like to have a
> > 3D
> > card that will support both Direct3D and OpenGL at the same time.
> > I'd like
> > to not have to spend a fortune on it.

> 3Dfx is working on it, although I don't know if there will be opengl
> drivers for their voodoo chipset, or just the voodoo rush chipset. You
> would probably find it best to wait until there is a card on the market
> that uses the voodoo rush chipset. Take a look at the 3Dfx page for
> more info.

> I think the matrox millenium supports both too, but its 3D isn't quite
> good enough for games :)

I think the 3dlabs permedia has openGL drivers, I have no idea how good
but the .sgi guys tend to hold them up as a good example and they have
been in the 3d acceleration business for longer than MS. The D3D support
is one of the best i've seen, on top of that it's a fast card, even faster
than 3dfx on one D3D benchmark if you have the delta version.

by **Jeff Land** » Sat, 28 Dec 1996 04:00:00

>I think the 3dlabs permedia has openGL drivers, I have no idea how good
>but the .sgi guys tend to hold them up as a good example and they have
>been in the 3d acceleration business for longer than MS. The D3D support
>is one of the best i've seen, on top of that it's a fast card, even
faster
>than 3dfx on one D3D benchmark if you have the delta version.

The permedia card does have drivers for OpenGL. Tried it out
with Softimage. It rocks. That was for NT only though. I don't
know about W95.

I also agree with you about the speed. It is very fast. Against
the 3dfx it seems to depend on the test you run.

Jeff
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