> > Also, instead of struts & jsp, etc., maybe take a look at WebObjects.
> Hi Keith
> I am currently using OJB and Struts. Would you recommend WebObjects over
> this? If "yes", why? Or was it more a suggestion to the OP to perhaps
> eliminate (or assist) in the training needs for their project, for example a
> bought package may have training provided as part of the purchase.
Not having used either package, I can only suggest investigating each
one. I hear good things from WebObjects developers, not much from struts
There are training classes and consultants available. Also, big
companies and small consultanting companies were using WebObjects when
it used to cost $50,000.
> I had a quick look at the datasheet ... statements like this make me
> hesitant ...
> "Building WebObjects applications is as easy as 1, 2, 3: Model your data,
> build your application, and customize your application."
It is unfortunate that a marketing droid wrote that datasheet. I haven't
used it myself, but people who do use it say that it helps them write
web apps much faster than other tools do, and with greater ease. If you
more info, try the mailing list here:
and this page of links:
Quote:> ... for example Borland would claim that you can use JBuilder to build the
> Swing components of you java application, and yes you can, and people do,
> but most java programmers that I talk to would hand code the GUI because the
> code generated from JBuilder is not considered great.
Probably most people tweak or hand-code the GUI generated by WebObjects,
as well. Though it does make an impressive demo (which I've seen).
> BTW, the intention of my comments/questions are purely information seeking
> ....** always interested in a better or easier way to do things **... if
> somehow that *tone* was lost via the text based medium :-) How about this
> for a *geek though* --- "express the intent of my posting using a test"
> *grin* Okay enough from me. Too much coffeeeeeeeeeeeee.
> remove clothes before replying
C. Keith Ray