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by **Andrè Fiskerstran** » Sat, 16 Feb 2002 20:44:02

Hi

I was woundering if it is possible to make a call between to Cisco ATA 186
units running SIP, without having a proxy server.
If so, do anyone have a configuration note so I can see the parameters for
this configuration?
I have heard that it is possible.

Is it possible to get any free software for setting up a SIP proxy server?

-mvh andr

by **Georg Schwa** » Sun, 17 Feb 2002 07:13:45

> I was woundering if it is possible to make a call between to Cisco ATA 186
> units running SIP, without having a proxy server.
> If so, do anyone have a configuration note so I can see the parameters for
> this configuration?
> I have heard that it is possible.

> Is it possible to get any free software for setting up a SIP proxy server?

have a look at http://www.vovida.org

--
Georg Schwarz http://home.pages.de/~schwarz/

by **Cullen Jenning** » Tue, 19 Feb 2002 17:11:04

The ATA 186 in SIP mode works fine with the www.vovida.org stuff.

> > I was woundering if it is possible to make a call between to Cisco ATA
186
> > units running SIP, without having a proxy server.
> > If so, do anyone have a configuration note so I can see the parameters
for
> > this configuration?
> > I have heard that it is possible.

> > Is it possible to get any free software for setting up a SIP proxy
server?

> have a look at http://www.vovida.org

> --
> Georg Schwarz http://home.pages.de/~schwarz/

by **$uRoo** » Tue, 19 Feb 2002 22:48:42

| Hi
|
| I was woundering if it is possible to make a call between to Cisco ATA
186
| units running SIP, without having a proxy server.
| If so, do anyone have a configuration note so I can see the parameters
for
| this configuration?
| I have heard that it is possible.
|
| Is it possible to get any free software for setting up a SIP proxy
server?
|

You can do it without any additional software - proxies, etc. The ATA's
work out of the box for IP to IP calling. Have been doing it for
several months now & they work great!

I assume you want to use SIP mode because you're behind a firewall,
right? All you need to do on your firewall is to forward ports 5060 &
10000 (tcp/udp) to the IP address of your ATA. Your firewall should NAT
all outbound traffic, so you shouldn't need to do anything on that end.
Let's see - - - from there, just enable SIP mode on the ATA, set the
NAT IP Address (your public address), default route, etc. Should be
able to place a call. Just dial the number like 192*168*10*10#, of
course replace with the IP you want to call. Works great for me!

If you need any other info, just post back. I don't have my ATA hooked
up right now, so I may have missed something. If so, I'll give you a
full rundown of what I have configured on the ATA should you need it.

by **Lars Bergstro** » Wed, 20 Feb 2002 00:18:22

Thanks for answering this person's question. Could I ask a few.
Thanks...

When dialing like that (from ATA 186 to ATA 186) without a proxy
server and directly to an IP, should you hear a dialtone when you pick
up the phone that is connected.

And when using a SIP proxy server how does one go about dialing a
numer. For example I was given something like this to call someone.

And do I even need the SIP proxy setting to call this person as the
SIP proxy he gave me to use is '111.222.333.444'.

Is it just me or is there very little clear information out there
about this stuff for actual users?

And thanks for the information on NAT firewalls. I should have done
this long ago as I have had these boxes for a few months now. Time to
pick up some more for family and friends.

On Mon, 18 Feb 2002 08:48:42 -0500, "$uRoot"

>You can do it without any additional software - proxies, etc. The ATA's
>work out of the box for IP to IP calling. Have been doing it for
>several months now & they work great!

>I assume you want to use SIP mode because you're behind a firewall,
>right? All you need to do on your firewall is to forward ports 5060 &
>10000 (tcp/udp) to the IP address of your ATA. Your firewall should NAT
>all outbound traffic, so you shouldn't need to do anything on that end.
>Let's see - - - from there, just enable SIP mode on the ATA, set the
>NAT IP Address (your public address), default route, etc. Should be
>able to place a call. Just dial the number like 192*168*10*10#, of
>course replace with the IP you want to call. Works great for me!

>If you need any other info, just post back. I don't have my ATA hooked
>up right now, so I may have missed something. If so, I'll give you a
>full rundown of what I have configured on the ATA should you need it.

by **Mike Cormie** » Wed, 20 Feb 2002 00:34:27

> Thanks for answering this person's question. Could I ask a few.
> Thanks...

> When dialing like that (from ATA 186 to ATA 186) without a proxy
> server and directly to an IP, should you hear a dialtone when you pick
> up the phone that is connected.

Yes you should. If your not going to http://<your ata's ip>/dev and you must
sed the UID0: to something other then 0.

by **Lars Bergstro** » Wed, 20 Feb 2002 02:35:57

Quote:>> When dialing like that (from ATA 186 to ATA 186) without a proxy
>> server and directly to an IP, should you hear a dialtone when you pick
>> up the phone that is connected.

>Yes you should. If your not going to http://<your ata's ip>/dev and
>you must sed the UID0: to something other then 0.

Thanks so much for the quick response. I did that and have now been
able to make and receive calls.

Still a lot to learn, but this is a great start.

by **Mike Cormie** » Wed, 20 Feb 2002 06:54:55

> Thanks so much for the quick response. I did that and have now been
> able to make and receive calls.

> Still a lot to learn, but this is a great start.

No problem. I had the exact same problem when I started using the ATA186. If
you have any luck/progress on using a Gateway please email me, as that is the
next barrier that I must jump.

Thanks!

by **Lars Bergstro** » Wed, 20 Feb 2002 15:45:24

Quote:>> Thanks so much for the quick response. I did that and have now been
>> able to make and receive calls.
>No problem. I had the exact same problem when I started using the ATA186.
>If you have any luck/progress on using a Gateway please email me,
>as that is the next barrier that I must jump.

I haven't started looking into gateways yet. What are you looking to
do? Have you looked at Mediatrix products?
http://www.mediatrix.com/

II have a 4-line 8-extension SOHO PBX that I have used with other
products and think it will work fine. I have used it with other things
including Internet PhoneJACK, Linksys Net2Phone router and my 1st ATA
186 box using the Voicenet DTS service (which no longer seems to be
accepting new customers).
http://www.talkswitch.com/products/talkswitch/talkswitch_48LS/

I am not in a big hurry to be IP only.

Next I will try getting the ATA 186 (using SIP) working behind a
Linksys router on one DSL line and then behind an ADSL modem with
built in router on another line. Someone here talked about the port
mappings needed. I will dig that up.

by **Andrè Fiskerstran** » Fri, 22 Feb 2002 00:14:37

The UID was wrong, and I changed the config at the router.........and now
the ATA 186 works fine.

-thanks

> You can do it without any additional software - proxies, etc. The ATA's
> work out of the box for IP to IP calling. Have been doing it for
> several months now & they work great!

> I assume you want to use SIP mode because you're behind a firewall,
> right? All you need to do on your firewall is to forward ports 5060 &
> 10000 (tcp/udp) to the IP address of your ATA. Your firewall should NAT
> all outbound traffic, so you shouldn't need to do anything on that end.
> Let's see - - - from there, just enable SIP mode on the ATA, set the
> NAT IP Address (your public address), default route, etc. Should be
> able to place a call. Just dial the number like 192*168*10*10#, of
> course replace with the IP you want to call. Works great for me!

> If you need any other info, just post back. I don't have my ATA hooked
> up right now, so I may have missed something. If so, I'll give you a
> full rundown of what I have configured on the ATA should you need it.

by **Lars Bergstro** » Fri, 22 Feb 2002 02:53:59

What do you mean by the 'UID was wrong"/

On Wed, 20 Feb 2002 16:14:37 +0100, "Andr Fiskerstrand"

>The UID was wrong, and I changed the config at the router.........and now
>the ATA 186 works fine.

>-thanks

--------------------------------------------------------------

>> You can do it without any additional software - proxies, etc. The ATA's
>> work out of the box for IP to IP calling. Have been doing it for
>> several months now & they work great!

>> I assume you want to use SIP mode because you're behind a firewall,
>> right? All you need to do on your firewall is to forward ports 5060 &
>> 10000 (tcp/udp) to the IP address of your ATA. Your firewall should NAT
>> all outbound traffic, so you shouldn't need to do anything on that end.
>> Let's see - - - from there, just enable SIP mode on the ATA, set the
>> NAT IP Address (your public address), default route, etc. Should be
>> able to place a call. Just dial the number like 192*168*10*10#, of
>> course replace with the IP you want to call. Works great for me!

>> If you need any other info, just post back. I don't have my ATA hooked
>> up right now, so I may have missed something. If so, I'll give you a
>> full rundown of what I have configured on the ATA should you need it.

by **Andre Fiskerstran** » Sat, 23 Feb 2002 16:17:31

You have to set a number in the UID0 or UID1 to get the dialtone. I guess
the UID is the diractorynumber assosiated with the ATA. When you use it with
the Cisco Call Manager 3.1 the UID0 has to be the same as the directory
number you set in the Call Manager. If you can hear the dialtone, the ATA
has correct configuration.

> What do you mean by the 'UID was wrong"/

> On Wed, 20 Feb 2002 16:14:37 +0100, "Andr?Fiskerstrand"

> >The UID was wrong, and I changed the config at the router.........and now
> >the ATA 186 works fine.

> >-thanks

> --------------------------------------------------------------

> >> You can do it without any additional software - proxies, etc. The
ATA's
> >> work out of the box for IP to IP calling. Have been doing it for
> >> several months now & they work great!

> >> I assume you want to use SIP mode because you're behind a firewall,
> >> right? All you need to do on your firewall is to forward ports 5060 &
> >> 10000 (tcp/udp) to the IP address of your ATA. Your firewall should
NAT
> >> all outbound traffic, so you shouldn't need to do anything on that end.
> >> Let's see - - - from there, just enable SIP mode on the ATA, set the
> >> NAT IP Address (your public address), default route, etc. Should be
> >> able to place a call. Just dial the number like 192*168*10*10#, of
> >> course replace with the IP you want to call. Works great for me!

> >> If you need any other info, just post back. I don't have my ATA hooked
> >> up right now, so I may have missed something. If so, I'll give you a
> >> full rundown of what I have configured on the ATA should you need it.

by **ch..** » Sun, 24 Feb 2002 13:09:34

On Fri, 22 Feb 2002 08:17:31 +0100, "Andre Fiskerstrand"

>You have to set a number in the UID0 or UID1 to get the dialtone. I guess
>the UID is the diractorynumber assosiated with the ATA. When you use it with
>the Cisco Call Manager 3.1 the UID0 has to be the same as the directory
>number you set in the Call Manager. If you can hear the dialtone, the ATA
>has correct configuration.

BTW, if you're using Call Manager I recommend using the mgcp/skinny
firmware. Makes the ATA look like a 7960 to call manager and works
much smoother than doing them as h323 or sip. You even get a stutter
tone for message notification. (and you don't need to change anything
on the ata setup once configured - the uid gets set by the cm)

-Chris

by **Adi Lind** » Fri, 01 Mar 2002 09:56:47

Quote:> BTW, if you're using Call Manager I recommend using the mgcp/skinny
> firmware. Makes the ATA look like a 7960 to call manager and works
> much smoother than doing them as h323 or sip. You even get a stutter
> tone for message notification. (and you don't need to change anything
> on the ata setup once configured - the uid gets set by the cm)

> -Chris

What Call Manager version are you using with the ATA186?

Adi

by **$uRoo** » Fri, 01 Mar 2002 10:23:37

: On Fri, 22 Feb 2002 08:17:31 +0100, "Andre Fiskerstrand"
:
: >You have to set a number in the UID0 or UID1 to get the dialtone. I
guess
: >the UID is the diractorynumber assosiated with the ATA. When you use
it with
: >the Cisco Call Manager 3.1 the UID0 has to be the same as the
directory
: >number you set in the Call Manager. If you can hear the dialtone, the
ATA
: >has correct configuration.
:
:
:
: BTW, if you're using Call Manager I recommend using the mgcp/skinny
: firmware. Makes the ATA look like a 7960 to call manager and works
: much smoother than doing them as h323 or sip. You even get a stutter
: tone for message notification. (and you don't need to change anything
: on the ata setup once configured - the uid gets set by the cm)
:

I'm curious - how were you able to get the call manager to recognize the
ATA w/o using skinny? I have an application that I'm going to have to
take that route with (need to use SIP), but I've never been able to get
it to work properly. I've had great success using ATA's w/ the call
manager, but only when the ATA has been configured as a skinny client.

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