PE2 Personal Editor

PE2 Personal Editor

Post by Joe Morr » Tue, 20 Jun 2000 04:00:00




>Is there anyone else still using the IBM PE2 Personal Editor?
>I started using it about 1985, customized the the key codes profile to
>my liking and have been using it ever since.  It still does just about
>everything I want to do and it does it very efficiently.
[...]
>The PE2.exe version I'm using is dated 8-16-85.  Does anyone know how
>I might eliminate the above two features or if there's a later version
>that doesn't have those features?

It's not a direct successor to PE, but have you looked at KEDIT from
Mansfield?  I used PE for a while when it was first released, but moved
to KEDIT after discovering it and have never regretted doing so.  KEDIT
is almost a direct port of XEDIT from the VM/SP world, and includes a
subset of REXX as its native macro language.  There are versions for
DOS, OS/2, and Windows; I use the DOS and Windows versions.

You can find more info about KEDIT at www.kedit.com .

Joe Morris

 
 
 

PE2 Personal Editor

Post by ewd_t.. » Tue, 20 Jun 2000 04:00:00



: Subject: PE2 Personal Editor

: Is there anyone else still using the IBM PE2 Personal Editor?
: I started using it about 1985, customized the the key codes profile to
: my liking and have been using it ever since.  It still does just about
: everything I want to do and it does it very efficiently.

: It's a shame that its development wasn't continued.  As much as I like
: it, there are two things I would change if I could.

:     1) Eliminate its use and recognition of the 'End-Of-File' flag.

:     2) Eliminate its 255 character line length limit.

: The PE2.exe version I'm using is dated 8-16-85.  Does anyone know how
: I might eliminate the above two features or if there's a later version
: that doesn't have those features?

There're later versions, I don't know if it's been eliminated.

IIRC, DOS 2000 ships with Professional Editor 2
(E.EXE ... I used that way back when as well...)

 
 
 

PE2 Personal Editor

Post by Patrick Kl » Tue, 20 Jun 2000 04:00:00




>Subject: PE2 Personal Editor

>Is there anyone else still using the IBM PE2 Personal Editor?

I am.  If it aint broke...

Quote:>I started using it about 1985, customized the the key codes profile to
>my liking and have been using it ever since.  It still does just about
>everything I want to do and it does it very efficiently.

Me too!

Quote:>It's a shame that its development wasn't continued.  As much as I like
>it, there are two things I would change if I could.

>    1) Eliminate its use and recognition of the 'End-Of-File' flag.

Hmmm... I thought there was a flag or setting for this someplace, but
who knows?

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PE2 Personal Editor

Post by randa » Tue, 20 Jun 2000 04:00:00





> >Subject: PE2 Personal Editor

> >Is there anyone else still using the IBM PE2 Personal Editor?

> I am.  If it aint broke...

> >I started using it about 1985, customized the the key codes profile to
> >my liking and have been using it ever since.  It still does just about
> >everything I want to do and it does it very efficiently.

> Me too!

> >It's a shame that its development wasn't continued.  As much as I like
> >it, there are two things I would change if I could.

> >    1) Eliminate its use and recognition of the 'End-Of-File' flag.

> Hmmm... I thought there was a flag or setting for this someplace, but
> who knows?

No, I don't think so.  I performed string searches on the PE2REF.DCA
documentation file and found no reference to end of file.  If you
learn of one, please let me know.  Thanks, -randau

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PE2 Personal Editor

Post by Mike Lepor » Mon, 26 Jun 2000 04:00:00


I use IBM PE2 all the time.  I don't know the answers to your
questions, but I wanted to remark that I'd be interested
in maybe having an email discussion group for people
who use it, for example, to share macros that we have
written, and other hints.
Mike Lepore email lepore ,
at idsi , dot , net delete the 5 from return address

> Subject: PE2 Personal Editor

> Is there anyone else still using the IBM PE2 Personal Editor?
> I started using it about 1985, customized the the key codes profile to
> my liking and have been using it ever since.  It still does just about
> everything I want to do and it does it very efficiently.

> It's a shame that its development wasn't continued.  As much as I like
> it, there are two things I would change if I could.

>     1) Eliminate its use and recognition of the 'End-Of-File' flag.

>     2) Eliminate its 255 character line length limit.

> The PE2.exe version I'm using is dated 8-16-85.  Does anyone know how
> I might eliminate the above two features or if there's a later version
> that doesn't have those features?

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PE2 Personal Editor

Post by Jim Van Nulan » Tue, 27 Jun 2000 04:00:00


:> Subject: PE2 Personal Editor
:>
:> Is there anyone else still using the IBM PE2 Personal Editor?
:> I started using it about 1985, customized the the key codes profile to
:>
:>
:>     1) Eliminate its use and recognition of the 'End-Of-File' flag.
:>
:>     2) Eliminate its 255 character line length limit.
:>
:> The PE2.exe version I'm using is dated 8-16-85.

   The .EXE that I have is dated November 2 1987, and it has the above two
"features".  The file size is 76,304 bytes.  I don't remember what fixes
were in that release.  I've used it since it's first (inside IBM) release
and still prefer it to anything I've seen before or since.

--
 -- Jim Van Nuland, San Jose (California) Astronomical Association

 
 
 

PE2 Personal Editor

Post by Mike Lepor » Tue, 27 Jun 2000 04:00:00


My pe2.exe is also 76,304 bytes.  I can't tell you the
date becuase I have since modified it with a utility that
changes colors (I wanted the command line to be
purple instead of green).

I also find the 255 column limit to be a nuisance, but
the end-of-file character has never caused me any
kind of problem, except all my web pages have a
funny looking little symbol at the very bottom (I didn't
bother to use Notepad to delete the EOF).  Why do
some people want to get rid of the end-of-file?

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PE2 Personal Editor

Post by Mike Lepor » Tue, 27 Jun 2000 04:00:00


I though PE2 was "IBM Internal Use Only"
(a mortal sin to even mention it in public).  Was it
marketed to the public?
 
 
 

PE2 Personal Editor

Post by Niels Weckwart » Tue, 27 Jun 2000 04:00:00


Hi !

I found an editor written by an employee of IBM.
It's so called EWS (employee written software) and
only legally usable by poeple which own a license of
an IBM product.
You can download it here.
http://www.rz.tu-clausthal.de/~winw/tinyed.zip

P.S. I don't know PE2, I only saw it once, but I think this
one is very comparable (possibly a successor ?).

 
 
 

PE2 Personal Editor

Post by randa » Tue, 27 Jun 2000 04:00:00



> My pe2.exe is also 76,304 bytes.  I can't tell you the
> date becuase I have since modified it with a utility that
> changes colors (I wanted the command line to be
> purple instead of green).

> I also find the 255 column limit to be a nuisance, but
> the end-of-file character has never caused me any
> kind of problem, except all my web pages have a
> funny looking little symbol at the very bottom (I didn't
> bother to use Notepad to delete the EOF).  Why do
> some people want to get rid of the end-of-file?
> --

It usually doesn't cause a problem, but has the potential to do so
and can sometimes be serious.  If you're editing a file that gets
appended (updated) by other software, it may leave your PE2 EOF's
embedded in the appended file.  Then if you try to edit it again, PE2
won't load anything past the first EOF mark.  And, the other software
that uses the file may not read past the EOF mark either.

I recently loaded into PE2 a problem report file that was
automatically generated by an ATI video card program.  It turned out
that the file was rather long and had an embedded EOF in the middle of
it.  The PE2 editor truncated the file at that point.  I almost didn't
notice it, because the file was so long.  I ended up using the Windows
Notepad editor, because I wasn't sure if the software that generated
the file had a reason for embedding the EOF mark.

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Post by Mike Lepor » Wed, 28 Jun 2000 04:00:00


I also had a file with all lines truncated after an EOF.
In my case it was because I manually typed an
alternate keypad 26 because I wanted to see if the
cute little arrow would appear on paper when I
printed the file  :-)    Once I hit "save" in PE2,
that became the last line.

However, the EOF is no problem if you append several
PE2-generated text files with a dos batch file:
type a >> x
type b >> x
etc.

My difficulty with the 255 (or 256 or whatever) maximum
number of columns has to do mainly with HTML coding.
For example, if somebody sends me a file with the
keywords tag in one-long-line, I use wordpad or
notepad and manually hit "return" to shorten the line,
and only then I can edit it with PE2.

Anyway, like I said, I don't have a "solution."  I'm just
letting you know we're in the same boat.

Mike Lepore email lepore , at - idsi , dot - net delete the 5

 
 
 

PE2 Personal Editor

Post by Jim Van Nulan » Wed, 28 Jun 2000 04:00:00



: I though PE2 was "IBM Internal Use Only"
: (a mortal sin to even mention it in public).  Was it
: marketed to the public?

  PE was indeed marketed to the public.  I obtained my copy internally as
I work for IBM (now retired). I have here one of the cloth-covered ring
binders bearing the title "Personal Editor".  Unfortunatly, the original
contents is lost.

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 -- Jim Van Nuland, San Jose (California) Astronomical Association

 
 
 

PE2 Personal Editor

Post by Jim Van Nulan » Wed, 28 Jun 2000 04:00:00



  My apologies for the defective editing when I composed my first message
-- I give the impresssion that I (or someone) had implemented the two
suggestions (Eliminate EOF and line limit).  I know of no version that
avoids those two problematic limitations.

: :> Subject: PE2 Personal Editor
: :>
: :> Is there anyone else still using the IBM PE2 Personal Editor?
: :> I started using it about 1985, customized the the key codes profile to
: :>
: :>
: :>     1) Eliminate its use and recognition of the 'End-Of-File' flag.
: :>
: :>     2) Eliminate its 255 character line length limit.
: :>
: :> The PE2.exe version I'm using is dated 8-16-85.

:    The .EXE that I have is dated November 2 1987, and it has the above two
: "features".  The file size is 76,304 bytes.  I don't remember what fixes
: were in that release.  I've used it since it's first (inside IBM) release
: and still prefer it to anything I've seen before or since.

: --
:  -- Jim Van Nuland, San Jose (California) Astronomical Association

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 -- Jim Van Nuland, San Jose (California) Astronomical Association