> > The wonder with GEOS is that so much can be done in real mode. That
> > me curious how it will look in a flat memory model.
> >There are zillions of
> > things which can be improved in GEOS,
> This I agree with you on.
> >but GEOS is there, and still works
> > pretty well in real mode, despite its limitations.
> This I disagree with you on. GEOS has tons of memory problems due to its'
> 1024K limitation, (well 640K really). Back when its' design was of great
> benefit. Now what was once a benefit is a severe limitation. The fact
> matter is the world of PC's has changed so drastically since 1980 as to
> whole other creature. GEOS sadly is a supreme has been. A spec of sand
> the beach of desktop GUI's. There was a very short window of chance for
> in 1990, and GWRX blew it by not making the SDK freely and readily
> available. The facts today are painfully obvious. There is no denying
> facts. GEOS is a nothing but to a small group of folks. I'd venture to
> fraction of a fraction of a percent of PC folks have ever heard of it,
> fraction of that fraction still use it. I'd be amazed if sales of PC/GEOS
> were 100 a year. And I'd be even more amazed if of those, 1% actually
> it after "playing" with it. It is gone. It is no more. It will never be
> again. I've no problem with folks that use it. I've only a problem with
> those that actually argue it is viable in today's market place. If it
> it would be. As it isn't, it isn't. Simple.
over all GEOS apps you dismiss the whole package. Well it is an easy way
to dismiss things, either or situation, but I don't see it that way. The
memory constraints shows when multitasking WebMagick and Artist or Writer.
I have had memory constraint problems with running just WebMagick, but after
some use and some tweaking with the memory configuration, I have hardly any
problems with it. XMS turned off, just EMS enabled, and using Motif is the
cure. It works very well. I get from time to time KR-15 out of memory, when
multitasking with Artist loaded with heavy graphics, or a big document in
Writer, but if I avoid doing this, I have hardly any problems. Writing this
I have WebMagick open and Newsreader open and it works well. All this doesn't
and other things can be added to the browser. But the main fix is the flat
memory model, or GEOS 32, without that only small things can be improved.
Well I can't say how big the user group of GEOS is, you might be right about
your assumptions, actually I have no idea. OTOH I still get surprised of
the level of questions regarding getting GWE Ensemble 1.2 or 2.01 running
under Win32....whatever flavour. I get the impression that many users who
bought it back then is still using it , and are quite happy with it. I have
no crystal ball, so I can't make any predictions about the future, I am using
Breadbox Ensemble under the present conditions, and we will see what the
future brings. If John Howard says that there will be a GEOS32 in the later
future, I have to rely on that. Your statements about GEOS is becoming a
mantra that you recite everytime, or canned opinions, when it is actually
so that neiter you or me know nothing about the future, you can make predictions
about it and that is ok and fine for me, but they are what they are. What
will your position be if you are proven wrong?
BTW, did you get the stones CD:s, the last four ones?