Replacement for internal 2,5" IDE Drive in Falcon 030

Replacement for internal 2,5" IDE Drive in Falcon 030

Post by T?tt » Sun, 21 Apr 2002 17:27:08



The original built-in 60-MB 2,5" IDE-HD in my Falcon is dieing slowly,
so i want to replace it with an bigger actual drive.
But which actual drives run proper in the Atari Falcon?
Is the Falcon capable of working with an actual 20 GB-Drive? (lesser
capacaties are hardly found)
Other solutions like external SCSI-Drives are not an option for me.
Which Hard-Disc-Driver should be used? How to partition that?

Greetings, Chris.

 
 
 

Replacement for internal 2,5" IDE Drive in Falcon 030

Post by Robert Schaffn » Sun, 21 Apr 2002 21:25:53



> But which actual drives run proper in the Atari Falcon?

Older list:

Drive:        Type:         Size:         Mech:         Comments:

Hitachi       DK222A-54     540 MB        2.5"
Hitachi       DK212A-81     810 MB        2.5"          Not for CT2
Turbo mode
Hitachi       DK212A-10     1.0 GB        2.5"
Areal         MD2085        80 MB         2.5"
Fujitsu       M2637T        240 MB        2.5"
Fujitsu       M2724TAM      1.6 GB        2.5"          No multiple
read/write
Conner        CFN250A       250 MB        2.5"
Conner        CP2064        64 MB         2.5"          No CT2

CT2 TurboMode!
Quantum       Daytona       500 MB        2.5"
Seagate       ST9077A       2.5"          Sorry, no technical data
Quantum       Europa        1.08 GB       2.5"
Toshiba       MK1002MAV     1.08 GB       2.5"
Toshiba       MK1924FCV     540 MB        2.5"
Toshiba       MK2326FCH     330 MB        2.5"
Toshiba       MK1403MAV     1.3 GB        2.5"
Toshiba       MK2110MAT     2.1 GB        2.5"          very silent
Toshiba       MK2109MAT     2.1 GB        2.5"          (8.9mm)

Quote:> Is the Falcon capable of working with an actual 20 GB-Drive? (lesser

Yes. Watch for ATA3 compatibility. Use HDDriver for that devices.
Connect it, load HDDriver, make your partitions, save driver on c: on
disk, restart and use it ;)

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Replacement for internal 2,5" IDE Drive in Falcon 030

Post by T?tt » Mon, 22 Apr 2002 03:21:09



> > Is the Falcon capable of working with an actual 20 GB-Drive?

> Yes. Watch for ATA3 compatibility. Use HDDriver for that devices.
> Connect it, load HDDriver, make your partitions, save driver on c: on
> disk, restart and use it ;)

Which height may the drive have? 12.5mm or 9.5? Or do both fine? I
think i will buy the IBM DSOA-21080, but it has 12.5 mm height (only
44 EUR new drive at alternate.de, but offers only 1 GB, but way enough
for all my old stuff :-).

Where to get the latest HDDriver? Is it free for download? I'm a
little bit out of date in terms of Atari.

Quote:> Regards, Robert

Gruezi, Christoph.
 
 
 

Replacement for internal 2,5" IDE Drive in Falcon 030

Post by GMA » Mon, 22 Apr 2002 06:09:38



Quote:>The original built-in 60-MB 2,5" IDE-HD in my Falcon is dieing slowly,
>so i want to replace it with an bigger actual drive.
>But which actual drives run proper in the Atari Falcon?
>Is the Falcon capable of working with an actual 20 GB-Drive? (lesser
>capacaties are hardly found)
>Other solutions like external SCSI-Drives are not an option for me.
>Which Hard-Disc-Driver should be used? How to partition that?

>Greetings, Chris.

I have a 3.2 gig 2.5 toshiba for sale.
 
 
 

Replacement for internal 2,5" IDE Drive in Falcon 030

Post by Robert Schaffn » Mon, 22 Apr 2002 13:22:01



> Which height may the drive have? 12.5mm or 9.5? Or do both fine? I

Both modells can be used on falcon. Newer hard disks als need new*
holes on hard disk tray. Only older models from list use the same*
holes.

Quote:> think i will buy the IBM DSOA-21080, but it has 12.5 mm height (only
> 44 EUR new drive at alternate.de, but offers only 1 GB, but way enough
> for all my old stuff :-).

Yes, thats ok for an falcon. Used here an 2GB toshiba drive.
Enough space for all the collected stuff :)

Quote:> Where to get the latest HDDriver? Is it free for download? I'm a
> little bit out of date in terms of Atari.

HDDrive isnt free.
http://www.veryComputer.com/
Use the demo release to test your drive.

HDDriver is the best choice, it is supported.
AHDI is free, old, slow and without any support.

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Replacement for internal 2,5" IDE Drive in Falcon 030

Post by Uwe Seime » Mon, 22 Apr 2002 16:32:12



> Is the Falcon capable of working with an actual 20 GB-Drive? (lesser
> capacaties are hardly found)
> Other solutions like external SCSI-Drives are not an option for me.
> Which Hard-Disc-Driver should be used? How to partition that?

It's no problem using a 20 GB drive. Note, however, that TOS limits the
maximum partition size to 1 GB. With MagiC or MINT you can have larger
partitions.
The only driver supporting IDE drives larger than 8 GB is HDDRIVER,
http://www.seimet.de/hddriver_english.html.

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Replacement for internal 2,5" IDE Drive in Falcon 030

Post by Uwe Seime » Mon, 22 Apr 2002 16:33:26



> Where to get the latest HDDriver? Is it free for download? I'm a
> little bit out of date in terms of Atari.

No, it's commercial. You can order it with a German manual from me or
with an English manual from Atari Workshop in the UK. Please refer to
http://www.seimet.de/hddriver_english.html for details.

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Replacement for internal 2,5" IDE Drive in Falcon 030

Post by xla.. » Tue, 23 Apr 2002 07:56:56



Quote:>The original built-in 60-MB 2,5" IDE-HD in my Falcon is dieing slowly,
>so i want to replace it with an bigger actual drive.
>But which actual drives run proper in the Atari Falcon?
>Is the Falcon capable of working with an actual 20 GB-Drive? (lesser
>capacaties are hardly found)

I take it by 'actual' you mean 'current' or 'up-to-date'.

20 GB might be a little too much for TOS or MagiC, as TOS 4.xx can
only address partitions up to 1 GB in size. You /could/ have 20 of
these, although some file selectors will not show them as they only
cover devices A: to P:  Also, with MagiC (and perhaps also MiNT),
U: is reserved for the system and it is usual to use Z: for a
CD-ROM, so there are just about enough letters available!

Note that you don't have to use 2.5" drives - you can use 3.5"
which are generally much cheaper. I put an IBM DTTA-350640 3.5"
drive in mine. There is just enough room, but you need an adapter
for connection, available from Mario Becroft in New Zealand or
Abingdon Synthesis Projects in England - contact address is

the power supply, which is a normal HD 4-way cable and not part of
the main ribbon lead that is used for 2.5" drives.

Quote:>Which Hard-Disc-Driver should be used? How to partition that?

HDDRIVER is far the best one going. You can download a demo from
Uwe Seimet's website http://www.seimet.de and he sells german
versions. If you want it with an English manual (by yours truly),

Regards, /Peter/

 
 
 

Replacement for internal 2,5" IDE Drive in Falcon 030

Post by <derryc » Mon, 22 Apr 2002 16:02:40



Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2002 06:22:01 +0200

Quote:>> Which height may the drive have? 12.5mm or 9.5? Or do both fine? I

>Both modells can be used on falcon. Newer hard disks als need new*
>holes on hard disk tray. Only older models from list use the same*
>holes.

I found that I had to completely insulate the drive from the tray in my
Falcon with insulation tape on the tray, nylon screws and a couple of
plastic spacers under the tray's mounting feet.

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